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Repentence includes feeling Godly sorry, confession, a turning away from the sin and turning to God, and asking forgiveness from God. But that is completely beside the point. Elizabeth Smart did not choose to be raped and abducted. Elizabeth Smart said that she had grown up in a religious home where she was taught to save herself for marriage.

She had decided wholeheartedly to do just that. What is shocking is that you find that wrong or offensive or somehow damaging to a child. You have absolutely no evidence to put any further words in her mouth or read any more than that into the story.

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The problem with your claims is that they are based entirely on your opinions and theory. There is absolutely no objective data to back your claim up. It is simply nothing more than your opinion, and nothing more. The continual conflation of issues by the critics seems absolutely intentional. Elizabeth Smart demonstrated and demonstrates all of the typical responses from a girl who experiences this type of trauma. All of her feelings and responses are very appropriately explained by the Rape Trauma Syndrome which has been clearly studied and described.

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Instead, you guys insist that her emotional and psychological response was the result of church conditioning, something for which you have absolutely no evidence. It is all explained by bias, conjecture, and prejudice. The scriptures sometimes speak of salvation from the second death.

Eternal Life, or Exaltation. In the scriptures, the words saved and salvation often refer to eternal life, or exaltation see Abraham This exaltation requires that men receive the Melchizedek Priesthood, and that all Church members make and keep sacred covenants in the temple, including the covenant of eternal marriage. If the word salvation is used in this sense, no one is saved in mortality. That glorious gift comes only after the Final Judgment. To be exalted, we first must place our faith in Jesus Christ and then endure in that faith to the end of our lives.

Our faith in Him must be such that we repent of our sins and obey His commandments.

We must be baptized. We must receive the laying on of hands to be confirmed a member of the Church of Jesus Christ and to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Brethren must receive the Melchizedek Priesthood and magnify their callings in the priesthood.

We must receive the temple endowment. We must be married for eternity, either in this life or in the next. In addition to receiving the required ordinances, the Lord commands all of us to:. Love God and our neighbors. Keep the commandments. Repent of our wrongdoings. Search out our kindred dead and receive the saving ordinances of the gospel for them. Attend our Church meetings as regularly as possible so we can renew our baptismal covenants by partaking of the sacrament.

Love our family members and strengthen them in the ways of the Lord. Have family and individual prayers every day. Teach the gospel to others by word and example. Study the scriptures. Listen to and obey the inspired words of the prophets of the Lord. Brewed, this is precisely my understanding of salvation and forgiveness in the LDS faith.

Apparently, he is hesitant to do so. Forgiveness come with repentance. It is possible through the atonement of Christ. We must have faith in Christ, have Godly sorry for our sins, confess if necessary, turn from the sin, and plead for forgiveness from God and man if restitution is appropriate. That is the process of repentance.

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Forgiveness come from atonement through that process. What more is there to say? I am impressed with the extent to which you guys are extending your faulty logic. Are you really claiming that according to our doctrine, 1 Elizabeth Smart is guilty of sin as a result of her rape and abduction; 2 forgiveness of that sin can only come from receiving all the ordinances of the gospel, including temple ordinances, and to eventually be exalted after this life?

Otherwise, why in the world is this even a part of the conversation about her story? I think you guys are deflecting from the topic. The topic is the supposed contribution that the church had in the abduction and serial rape of Elizabeth Smart. And my contention is that there is absolutely no evidence that the church had any contribution to the abduction or serial rape of Elizabeth Smart or her not making a more aggressive attempt to escape. Um, You have a real problem with comprehension. Please quote me. Please reread them. Who would she run to? Her parents.

Obviously, she felt she had NOT been taught this. What you posted is not a quotation of Smart. It is a summary and analysis from the news organization in Baltimore. That is an interpretation. She goes on to say that she very much believed them- after all, they had abducted her from her house and had raped her.

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That is the first reason she gives for not running. She then talks about how we need to prepare children at younger ages to be prepared for this type of situation and how to respond. The article is completely taking her words out of context. She simply says that she felt so dirty and filthy after the first rape. She says she understands why a person would not run for that reason alone. Again, her first reason for not running was fear.

You do realize the short phrases in the paragraph above are the only actual words from her, and that the other words are taking those phrases from her completely out of context? Her feeling dirty, crushed, filthy, and wondered who would want her after that.

That is perfectly consistent with the Rape Trauma Syndrome. You have absolutely no evidence that the church and its teachings contributed to Smarts response to her trauma. Fof, no, I am not conflating anything. Unless, of course, you view our very doctrine as conflating the two ideas. Exaltation and forgiveness go hand in hand in our faith.

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We are glorified when we ask Christ to forgive us. Now, everything you list in here is good to do as a Christian, but it is not necessary to be saved. But I use this process to demonstrate the very different beliefs in our faiths concerning the idea of forgiveness. Its interesting to see how you take the story.